FoLAR (and their friends) are confused as to why Gloria Molina is angry that some kids drew all over the LA River.
Here are some photos of the disrespectful artless posturing.
Let’s see, Gloria Molina represents a good portion of Latino LA and instead of going to Self Help Graphics or El Nopal, FoLAR goes to Crewest. A gallery that popped up yesterday and gets Man One (who is of what stature exactly in the art world, oh he works in advertising, that’s pretty much the same thing as art) to organize scribbling all over the LA River, because FoLAR thought it would be cool.
Where was Leo Limon? Where was Gronk? Where either of them asked? Did they not want to participate? WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW (PRIVATELY browne@shametrainla.com or publicly, comments.)
If they weren’t asked, what the fuck? If they were asked and didn’t want to do it, probably a red flag this was a bad idea.
FoLAR's now confused as to what’s the problem?
I just told you in seven sentences what the fuck went wrong and why Gloria is probably a little annoyed. You know she probably didn’t want to have to get mad, but how exactly is she going to explain to the muralists of East LA who have been fighting for legitimacy for decades that they just have been usurped by a guy in advertising from the San Gabriel Valley who has a “gallery” that sells spray cans, because now it’s cool to do graffiti.
She has had FoLAR’s back for YEARS. She was an ardent supporters and she just got FUCKED by FoLAR. FoLAR should have thought. FoLAR should have thought as to the repercussions of choosing who you chose to work with when you are a guest in someone else’s neighborhood.
Of course LA belongs to everyone, but when men of color stop getting pulled over for just being dark, then you can call me on that properly. Until then, fuck off in regards to that kumbaya shit.
They couldn’t even get the flyer right. The flyer said the event was in Highland Park when I could have sworn that section of the river (by Avenue 19) that was being scribbled over was Lincoln Heights? When I take the Gold Line the stop to get off says Lincoln Heights. When I take the MTA 90, 94, 294 according to the MTA it says its Lincoln Heights. I guess things look differently from your car as you are speeding out on the i5, 2, or i110 before dark to the neighborhoods that have been properly gentrified.
People say no one lives there, well to me with the amount of graffiti (some very artful) someone is living there and if you've ever gone over the railroad tracks, scaled the wall after dark, and through the holes in the chain linked fences, those somebodies care an awful freakin lot about that section of the river, maybe not the way you or I would care, but they do care.
Who did FoLAR consult? (you can email me FoLAR browne@shametrainla.com) Did FoLAR consult any artists in the LA area about that. Did FoLAR consult their former outreach coordinator Joe Linton? Joe’s an artist, possibly he may have been a better person to organize this allegededly community event.
Did FoLAR consult any people in the community that they were painting in? The adults in the area, not just the kids? Consult the homeowners? Did they consult the leaders of the community.
How about if I plan an event at your house, ask your kids in regards to if it’s cool and then spray paint your living room FoLAR?
Would that be cool with you?
Oh and then after I spray painted your living room how about I use the pictures of the event, not to help the enviroment, but to gain pseudo "street" cred, so that the urban divisions of corporations that I want to pay me money know that I am "hardcore."
See the Swedish headliner of the events extra-curricular activities: commerical crap.
Yeah-yeah, they had the permits, but say your kid asked to go to the party at the good kid's house and you were real busy. You say yeah, because in general your kid is responsible and then later on you see your kid in an orgy on you-tube. You’d be like what the fuck, right?
That’s what a graffiti party along the LA River is. An orgy of art. I’m not saying I have a problem with graffiti (or orgies), but FoLAR doesn’t have a right to force "art" into districts that I doubt any of the staff members of FoLAR live in.
Another problem is that the people who participated in this event, didn’t seem like they were from the neighborhood. The headliner seemed to have been some guy from Sweden? Why is a guy from Sweden headlining and Eastside graffiti/mural event? Why is a group that started in 2002 in Germany scribbling on my river?
They seemed to just have viewed the LA River as a canvas for their personal project?
I'm not going to even ask if there were any chicks there. To me from the photos it looks like the old boy's club 2007 style. I know I saw two women in the photos, but being a woman of color I know how organizations make a real effort to "appear" diverse. Often I'm the only woman of color at events and people always want to take my picture to show how "colorful" they are. Such bullshit. That's why I don't allow people to take my picture anymore.
Nothing pisses off ethnic people more than outsiders planning "art" projects in their neighborhood.
They have been segregated, disrespected, and now then when you think their culture is cool you co-op and use it for your own shameless self promotion and take everything that they built without even a symbolic gesture of respect by asking them directly can you take it.
You do that permit bullshit. That’s the “mans” way of fucking you. How many people of color have gotten their homes taken away because of some damn permit? Lost a job? Been fined for some bullshit, because of a damn permit? How many working class white people, Armenian-Americans, Italian-Americans have gotten scrwed over because of a damn permit?
You can all put your hands down now. Fuck permits.
Organizations run by ethnic people have to spray paint in the middle of the night and you get to do it in public during daylight, because you got a permit? A guy from Sweden gets to paint on the Eastside and he doesn't even get community service because you got a permit, yeah whatever.
I can't even get the cops to not bother me on the Blue Line and I always have a permit.
And what about the environment? Why would using aerosol paint seem like a good idea around the LA River? That’s pretty toxic and lets not go into the amount of cars and no mention of public transport anywhere on the flyer. I guess if you're flying in from Europe you don't have to be concerned about the enviroment in LA, because you don't live here.
I’m not saying FoLAR is racist, just very, very ignorant to think that graffiti was going to be greeted with open arms by Gloria.
Latina moms don’t like graffiti, just like African-American moms don’t like rap. I know that’s hard for white people who now think that hooliganism is cool, because it’s been commercialized and made safe, but that kind of thing still brings chills to older people of color. They remember what it used to mean.
Someone getting killed.
I don’t think FoLAR was insincere in its intentions, just disturbingly ignorant. You should have asked. You should have asked for real, not in that upper middle class suit way.
FoLAR is an excellent organization and it has done a lot, but it was a bit naïve in it’s calculations.
Let me make clear that Gloria Molina was one of FoLAR’s biggest supporter, in fact she was the biggest.
In 2006 she was awarded a Rivie by FoLAR for her years of support, so this isn’t some out of the blue thing. She doesn't have PMS. She felt disrespected and rightfully so.
FoLAR, Gloria’s got your nuts in a steel vice and I suggest you say uncle, because in LA there is definitely a new sheriff in town and I think she has a skirt.
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On to the media, you so-called journalists are gutless. You are gutless asskissers. I know FoLAR has friends in high places in journalism (which is why writers should cease being friends with nonprofits, corporations, and politicians and learn to be objective in the background observers, so the truth can get out) in the LA print media, but seriously, you’re dumbasses. The fucked upness of this situation is obvious on so many fucking levels. Letting people talk shit about Gloria without defending her, after all she’s done.
Gloria Molina is old school LA. One of the few people of color in politics that doesn't view her people as a stepping stone to get some cushy bullshit business job. Born in Pico Rivera the eldest of ten children. She had done countless things that have helped not just the Latino community, but working class people in general. She's been in politics since the 1970s. She's hardcore and the liberal media are going to sit by an let a hatchet job get done on her by people who plan an event on the Eastside and they don't even know the neighborhood that they are painting in. That's some sadness right there.
You suck, seriously. I hope you’re getting paid nicely to lick the “right” people’s asses.
Nice how the pr machine worked in overdrive to get this bullshit covered in favor of FoLAR or some pretend bullshit “objectivity,” not one person can see Gloria's side on this? Yeah that's the sad state of the "independent" "green" media in the city of Lost Angeles.
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