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    07/14/2009

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    If we can't work you like a dog then why should you be here? That's sarcasm of course. It reminds me of the 1930s now. After the Roaring Twenties a time of great excess the depression came and along with renewed interest in the KKK, now we have Minute Men and people who claim they care about America. Yeah whatever people care about their cheap food, cheap clothes, and slave labor until time gets tough and then they get concerned about how this stuff happens and then they realize it's some easy scapegoat some person who has no rights, so you have what happened above. ---Browne

    Hey Browne. Things are already spiraling down by the moment. As I was listening to NPR's All Thing's Considered today


    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106658642

    Now, the next thing is going to be to push an agenda against the children of illegal immigrants. Pretty soon we could have in the ballot's having to decide whether children born in the USA are considered citizens or not.

    The main purpose of this will be so that legally in the state of Ca. the health care system is no longer under obligation to treat what up to this moment are considered Americans.

    Rogelio, I've discussed that initiative with someone in the know and she says there's no way in hell that they could revoke rights from children born in the United States from illegal immigrant parents. The reason is because they are U.S. citizens, and by revoking their rights granted to them as a U.S. citizen it puts us on a slippery slope toward revoking the rights of any citizen for arbitrary reasons.

    If it ever passes, much less gets on the ballot, it'll be overturned handily.

    Apparently, from what I've heard. Which by the way, I should look into it to make sure it is indeed the case, those rights from the 14th amendment were put in there because in the past people of African descent were not considered American citizens and therefore could not vote. So, as I've heard this was the original intent of this and not in a literal way, so they say. If you heard the piece from NPR, the man with the initiative would like this to be clarified and therefore annul citizenship to children of illegal aliens. I agree with you. I mean it's like the country, the society started having bastard children. Sounds harsh, but that;s what it would amount to. Like I said, I don't know what the answer to all of this would be, but it just doesn't seem right.

    The next argument is, do we want children starving to death because of a situation they could not control? The child did not choose to come here and be born. It would be politically unpopular (and morally wrong) to allow children to die in the streets because they couldn't get assistance.

    That's some image, isn't it?

    The US gov't would never have anyone die on the streets in public. They'll let them die behind the gates of the projects, far, far, far, away from people who use eco bags to buy 50 dollar organic pasta and have their electric cars parked by a guy working 12 hours a day with no benefits and solely for tips.

    Don't underestimate what this country will do when times get economically hard. Right after slavery there were no Jim Crow laws, that got added about years later during a particular rough economic patch? You think Japanese Americans thought they would be getting interned? You think Mexican-Americans who had been here would think they would get kidnapped by their own gov't and dropped of in the middle of Mexico?

    Browne

    See, that's exactly the point Browne, I don't underestimate what could happen because time and time throughout history as you have pointed out, ad=s the old saying goes, difficult times call for difficult measures, though by the looks of it, they haven't been difficult measures. They have been done with out thinking twice. I hope no one reading this will get offended by this, I have a saying meant to be sarcastic, everything wrong in this country is Mexicans fault. 9/11 Mexicans fault, Katrina Mexicans fault, the financial crisis Mexican's fault, not Bernard Madoff. That's what it feels like sometimes, that people, illegal people, especially from Mexico are being targeted and thought of as if they were gone the country's problems would be gone as well.

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