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12/29/2008

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Browne Molyneux, who publishes The Bus Bench, had an interesting piece up the other day. In it, she wondered at the gaping disparities in how transportation choices of different social groups are represented in the media. As she argues, the debate abou... [Read More]

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First off, spot on. Anyone who advocates for alternative transportation and then chooses to live away from it is a hypocrite. Anyone who can choose a transit-centric life really ought to, and there ought to be more folks focusing on getting those who CAN choose to choose transit. However, I do have to take a bit of issue with your central premise, especially when you specifically mention Riverside. :)

A little over year ago, I was working a blue-collar job (cable TV installer), and I did it without driving to work most days. My co-workers thought I was crazy. I probably am. However, my point is that alternatives do exist, and while we certainly need to get those with some discretionary income thinking about alternative transportation, maybe some of the other folks can find their way to thinking about it as well. Ideally, alternative transportation is for everyone.

Furthermore, and this is what I like to think I focus on, we ought to be pushing to create transportation for those who are currently without it. Of all the people in our society, it is the middle and working class who would benefit the most out of improved public transit. I know it saved me a bucket of money that I didn't have.

Another thing I might add is that public transit is populated mostly by working class people, at least in LA, and that says something for their virtuous habits, by choice or not.

"Another thing I might add is that public transit is populated mostly by working class people, at least in LA, and that says something for their virtuous habits, by choice or not." Bert

It seems to me the most truly green people in LA are working class people. These communities should be looked at as an example. Given book deals. How to take the bus with three kids and have them behave? How to grow an edible garden without being a self-rigtheous, smug prick?

:)

Browne

"I like to think I focus on, we ought to be pushing to create transportation for those who are currently without it." Justin

I think this is an important point. In America it would be thought as madness if a child didn't have access to an education, but in rural parts of the country owing to lack of transportation this often happens.

In LA if you want to go to a college its not a big challenge, even if you don't have a car. Yes maybe its not fun to have to take the bus to college, but at least there is a college at the end up your bus ride and at least there is a bus.

I remember going to Mexia, Texas and this young girl thought I was the greatest thing ever, which of course made me like her. She told me how she was vegetarian, even though it was hard because everyone made fun of her and she liked making her own clothes are fixing up preloved clothes, but she told me how she wanted to go to college, but there were no colleges in Mexia. That she just rode a bike and she couldn't ride her bike 100 miles for class, that she would have to move to Dallas and get a job and...it was just a real insane burden for a person in a rural neighborhood that lived in a trailer. For her moving to Dallas seemed very expensive and scary, but she didn't want to be stuck.

Unfortunately over the summer she got pregnant and being a small town options are limited. If she had mobility, even a bus or train that was economically price that would have taken her into Dallas in the morning and brought her back at night that would have changed her life in a major way.

Browne

Every time I read diatribes like this I keeping thinking.... surely.... this must be a satire. This type of attack on anyone who has a different life style than your own is not going to solve the transit problems of this city.

Finding solutions that will work in the real world is only possible when one at least makes an attempt to understand why people live the lives they do and why they make the choices they do. Resorting to name calling, bigotry and prejudice when dealing with people you disagree with prevents any kind of meaningful dialogue from happening.

I used to live in Malibu and know very well why people chose to live there. I also have lived in Downtown for over ten years and deliberately gave up my car to see how that kind of live can be lived in this city. I have also worked hard to create a pedestrian and transit oriented community. I think we have the same goals. But the more I read articles like this, the more I realize the biggest problem transit has in this city - is some of its supporters.

"This type of attack on anyone who has a different life style than your own is not going to solve the transit problems of this city." Brady

I'm not attacking a different lifestyle, I'm critiquing people who are associates, former boyfriends and former classmates. I'm saying this fluffy we critique without considering the needs of the working class is sort of bullshit. Too many people in alt transit fail to consider safety and affordability as if those are secondary when thy are not secondary.

Many people drive because its not safe to walk or bike and I'm not talking about just not safe because there isn't a bike lane, I'm talking about getting harmed on purpose. Other drive because they simply can't live places where they can afford transit, not once they have three kids.

And if you think I'm attacking Malibu I'm not, I'm saying if people from KCET can get to together and do a critique on Temecula or Riverside in regards to why those people don't use public transit then why don't they put that same lense on Malibu and I say the reason is because they are just playing activist and don't want to piss off the people with the money.

If you are not willing to at least mention the rich (because I'm not for demonizing a lifestyle, but I'm not into giving people a pass just because they are rich) then you are not a very good activist and you should probably stop wasting your time as well as everyone else's.

I think the average person in a car with a family would be open to my suggestions in regards to alt transporation and what they can do to get there.

Browne

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